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November 26, 2002

Present: Chair Carter, Chair-Elect Daley, Secretary Banks; Parliamentarian Gilbert, Provost Cooper, Senators Ash, Bernhard, Carter, DeLuca, Fikry, Havner, Headen, Honeycutt, Matthews, McRae, Misra, Sawyers, Smoak, Tyler, Weiner

Absent: Senators Atkin, Beasley, Fahmy, Garval, Griffin, Hammerberg, Hodge, Warren, Peacock, Rice

Excused: Senators Allen, Brothers, Istook, Krotee, Lytle, Stoddard, Tetro

Visitors: Frank Arams, Sr. Vice Provost, Academic Affairs; Kathy Brown, NCSU Libraries; June Brotherton, NCSU Libraries; Keefe Harrison, Waste Reduction Coordinator; George Dixon, Vice Provost; Erin Dixon, College of Management; Fred Corbin, Past Chair of the Faculty; Daniel Bunce, Editor, Bulletin, News Services; George Barthalmus, Professor Emeritus, Zoology; Marye Anne Fox, Chancellor; Clare Kristofco, Executive Assistant to the Chancellor; Cecil Brownie; Talbert Shaw, President of Shaw University

1. Call to Order
The seventh meeting of the forty-ninth session of the North Carolina State University Faculty

Senate was called to order at 3:00 p.m. by Chair Philip B. Carter.

2. Welcome and Announcements
Chair Carter welcomed Senators and Guests.

Provost Cooper announced that they are in the process of commissioning a tuition task force that would consider what recommendation would be made about campus initiated tuition increases. Chair Philip Carter, and Harriette Griffin from the College of Management

have agreed to serve on the task force as faculty representatives.

Provost Cooper stated that the task force will get organized next week and he hopes to have substantial progress made toward the end of January when they will be reporting their recommendations to the Office of the President.

3. Approval of the Minutes, Meeting No. 6, November 12, 2002
The minutes were approved without dissent.

4. Resolution of Commendation
Secretary Banks read a resolution of commendation honoring Vice Provost George Dixon for thirty years of service to NC State University. The resolution was passed by the Faculty Senate at the November 12th Faculty Senate meeting.

5. Remarks from George Dixon, Vice Provost of Enrollment Services & Director of Admissions
"I am absolutely humbled. I have to smile when I see what is happening in this room and hear these words, remembering that if you were to open those blinds in 1968, I was a freshman walking across that brickyard. I remember looking up at those blinds wondering what goes on up there. Now to be a part of it is a humbling experience for me. To have come here as a freshman in 1968, to have fallen in love with this place as only an undergraduate can do with their school, and to have had the absolute privilege to serve this university for almost thirty years now is remarkable to me. If it were not for my two boys in college, I could not tell you where these last thirty years have gone. I can tell you that, with a six-year old daughter in the first grade, I have a number of years to look forward to of staying very active in lots of things. For those who are not aware, while this is certainly my retirement at NC State, I have the privilege and honor of staying active in my profession. I have accepted a part time role working on the National College Access Initiative that is being headquartered out of the UNC Office of the President. I will be doing that for the next couple of years. It really is the best of both worlds from my point of view. To be recognized by my peers is something that means a great deal to me. My career here has been important. I think the university has done great work to make this university accessible to students from all walks and races and giving them opportunities. Many times they come back to tell us what remarkable experiences they had as we see them continue to achieve in their life after the university. I have a lot of great memories and plan to be around for a very long time and will look forward to staying in close contact with you as colleagues. Thank you so very much for this honor. I am truly moved."

6. Honors and Scholars Programs at NC State
Professor Emeritus George Barthalmus commented on some changes that the Honors Program would like to institute.

"The program is only two and a half years old. It was initiated out of the Provost’s Office in 1998, and in 1998-2000, as it was being built and as we were assessing the honors within the discipline, it was also assessed. With the help of the National Collegiate Honors Council, the Honors Program took the shape that it has now.

One of the things that we have discovered and that other institutions of our size and magnitude with the same mission and a large extensive research operation are finding, is that we need not to be competing with the small liberal arts institutions with our Honors Program. There are many hundreds more of them than there are of the large research institutions. For that reason we have made recommendations through Undergraduate Affairs that we focus this particular program on the mission of the institution, which is to be first rate in research, and also to introduce to the students the goals of becoming the next generation of graduate students and professionals--to be the next group of knowledge builders, the kinds of things that faculty at small institutions cannot do. We have made this recommendation to move ahead to produce an Honors Program that will meet the needs of the students of getting into graduate and professional schools and also to teach them about discovery, creativity, and inquiry-based learning with critical thinking at the core. Discovery, inquiry, and creativity-based learning are what we call research. That is what will be the hub for this new program.

Something that I am going to use to punctuate this remark about moving into this new era of using the research institution model for promoting the undergraduate Honors Program is the meeting that I attended two weeks ago. It is called Undergraduate Research and Scholarship in the mission of the Research University. This meeting was at College Park, Maryland. Three hundred eighty-five institutions showed up from approximately twenty-nine different states and Puerto Rico. That meeting really brought it home that these large institutions want to have research at their core and not just of their Honors Program. They want research to be at the core of everything that the students learn. At Duke for example, they are creating courses called "R" courses. They want these "R" courses to be dispersed throughout the entire curriculum, meaning that, no matter what you teach, there will be this idea of where did the knowledge on the printed page come from. Who did that work? How did they do that work? What were the consequences, the impact and what were the difficulties? Were there ethics involved? With that in mind, these universities got together and met to come up with assessment plans for building an Honors Program that is built upon research ideas. There are a variety of different models. I am here to tell you that it was a very exciting thing to see how we could move forward and really make a strong distinction between the Honors Program and the current Scholars Program. Both of these programs draw students from the same admission’s pool. They are excellent students. We want to allow the students to make their decision as to whether or not they are going to go toward a strong academic approach, or they are going to be looking to build new knowledge as incipient researchers, or whether they want an enrichment program that has various "H" (Honors section courses) to take along with various cultural opportunities. We think that, by making this particular move, we will make a significant difference or distinction between the two programs so that there is no question that when a student comes on board in the Honors Program they will, in fact, be interested in research. At this very moment we are working on an admission package that will be mailed out to students who were actually admitted into the institution but who might be interested in being admitted into the Honors Program. They will have to do some essays in order to complete this package. We have readers to read the essays. We are going to determine, based upon that, which students we will be bringing in. I should also mention that the idea will be to bring in approximately 100 students. Currently the distribution of the students in the Honors Program does not match the percentage occurrence of undergraduates in the various colleges. For example, we have 53% of Engineering students in the Honors Programs where in fact, there is about 28% of Engineering students in the university. You do the math and find out if you want to bring in 100 students and you want to have good representation across all curricula. We need to make our admissions for the Honors Program work that way."

Chair Carter stated that there has been some misunderstanding of the differences between honors and scholars. "What has the problem been all these years?"

Barthalmus stated, "Many of the "H" sections that we have now were in existence well before the Honors Program started. Honors courses have been around for a long time. The Scholars Program has been around for approximately nineteen years. Scholars had gone out to the faculty asking them as individual students, if they would be willing to do a scholar contract with the student to turn that course into a scholarly course by having additional requirements for the course. You cannot ding something like that. We are talking about raising the stakes on a good course to make it better, more rigorous, more comprehensive in various ways. That was a good thing, and it continues to be a good thing because the expectation is something more than the typical student is getting in the course. Then if a faculty member wishes to have a scholar’s course that is another thing that is generated but none of these scholars options or courses were subsidized. The departments have had honor sections through the years, and they have been subsidized through the funding that comes to the department through 1310 monies and other funds. In the year 2000 when the Honors Program started, the idea was that we would shoot for 800 students on this campus that would be in the Honors Programs and that would generate a huge population of students needing Honors courses, and to help departments in that regard, the "H" sections were going to be supported for this two-year program of Honors in general education. We found that by working in an agreement with the Scholars Program, we would permit the scholars to also take the "H" sections. By taking the "H" sections the six hundred or more scholar students that come in each year would be moving in with the 200 students that we are bringing into the Honors Program; with about three times more scholars than honors students they are taking the honor sections, and it becomes very expensive. As we look at who is taking the courses, we are oftentimes finding that there might be three or four times as many students in these given sections that we are paying for that are scholar students than honor students. We have moved to turn the honor courses back to the department where they were originally housed. Scholars are pleased to go back to the old regime of contacting faculty. That is going to mean additional responsibility on the part of the faculty to meet the need of the many scholars that are on campus."

Senator Headen wanted to know whether honors or scholars would be better for a high school student.

Barthalmus responded that it depends on your interest area. During the middle of December, Scholars and Honors will be sending out independent mailings.

Vice Provost Dixon commented, that question has been haunting both of those programs for the last couple of years. "It is very important to note that the academic capabilities of both of these groups of students are identical. Differentiating has been difficult. Now with the shift to a research emphasis in the Honors Program, differentiating is going to be a much easier task so that all the students that are bright will have accelerated courses but the honor students will have an intensive research focus. The scholar students will have an academic enrichment experience, more of a co-curricula than a research focus. One is going to be research intensive and the other is simply going to be enrichment with some honors and courses opportunities.

If you have an interest in independent research, research as an undergraduate, or have long term goals that are pointed in that direction, you need to be in the Honors Program. Otherwise, the Scholars Program could meet your enrichment needs."

Barthalmus stated that the Scholars Program pretty much matches what you find in small liberal arts institutions. "What we are trying to say here is that the Honors Program does not need to match that. We need to depart from that. We need to have a focus on what the mission of this institution is all about and that is research extensive. We expect our incoming honor students to be disproportionately interested in going to graduate and professional school. We want to know how well these students are doing in terms of getting placed into graduate and professional schools. Of course the scholar students do go to professional schools and they can do research if they elect to do that. Any student can. There are 2.5 GPA students that do undergraduate research and it turns their life on. They are no longer the same 2.5 GPA students. In fact that is what other institutions have been doing all the time. If you go to UCLA you will find that there are approximately 6,000 students who are participating in undergraduate research. Their goal is to have some type of hands on experience for all students. At Duke they are looking for these "R" sections."

Senator Headen wanted to know if a student has the choice between honors and scholars, does one restrict his or her options here more than the other.

Barthalmus responded no, your option is hooked to your interest area.

Senator Headen wanted to know what happens when a young bright student changes as he learns more and does more things, and his curiosity leads him to graduate school somewhere.

Barthalmus stated that he thinks his best option would be in the Honors Program because the research orientation is to teach students as if they are going to graduate or professional school. They have to learn that, at the core of everything that they study, was someone who did research and put it on paper. There were consequences to that. Sometimes there were ethical issues that arose out of historical kinds of things and that work has changed society in many ways. "We want that to be embedded in a student coming out of a research institution. If they have that interest, they will do well."

Senator Misra wanted to know if the student comes in as an honor student can he/she switch to a Scholars Program after a semester.

Barthalmus responded yes, as long as the student is not too far along.

Senator Tyler wanted to know if the Honors Program would be more select.

Barthalmus responded yes.

Barthalmus stated that they want a diversity rich program. "I do not mean just ethnicity and race. I am talking about good distribution across curricula. We want opportunities for students who are in the lesser populated areas of this state to have some opportunity to come into the program. We think that the high school rank, and grade point average might be helpful rather than only the SAT score. So by having a diversity plan such as that, I think we will have a broader kind of representation for the Honors Program."

Chair-Elect Daley wanted to know why departments should offer these classes. He thinks that they are going to be small enrollment classes, and stated that we are under tremendous pressure to fill a lot of classes with students who need them.

Barthalmus stated that the faculty love teaching these students. "In the past we have seen that faculty are willing to teach separate sections in order to do this smaller section. We do have "H" sections that are not twenty students per section. They are far more than that. Although our seminars are restricted, these are the HON courses for our seminars. Those HON seminars are restricted to twenty students. The "H" sections have not been restricted to twenty students but we hope that they will be smaller in size. We were paying for the same courses. The Provost’s Office is paying for a seminar course that had a slight touch to it from what is being delivered in a department. That, in these really difficult times, is not necessarily the best approach. Since we are only two and one half years into the Honors Program, going back to the "H" sections being controlled by the departments seems relatively reasonable. I cannot tell you how much difficulty that is going to cause a department. I think that there are some departments that will find it more difficult than others. We are going to have the seminar courses going, and the seminar courses are providing a certain amount of subsidy to the departments that has been helpful. It certainly is not enough to pay for a new faculty member to come in and teach that course. It really is ending up being like operating funds more than it is being able to hire someone to come in and teach a section.

I have been getting comments from Department Heads from time to time as to how they are going to do this. One of the issues is not even related to the first two years of funding that we did formerly. The issue now is that in some departments like Microbiology and Biochemistry, they do not even start teaching a course in a discipline until a student is in their junior year. They have always had that problem. We have never funded those courses because they are at the three or four hundred level. That is not going to change."

Chair Carter wanted to know why an academic program on one side is reporting through the Provost and on the other side through the Vice Chancellor of Students. He thinks academic programs should report through the Provost’s Office.

Barthalmus stated that a long while ago the whole scholars idea came out of CHASS. It ended up being taken up by Alex Miller. "After a period of time I believe the Provost elected to have the Deans support Miller’s directorship. The Deans ended up paying for it for a period of time.

The point is that we have an academic program sitting in Student Affairs and it is not sitting with the Provost. It has been a historical thing that has been going on for a long time. It is not something that Student Affairs wants to lose. It is something that they have cherished. They feel that they have done well with it and that they have brought wonderful students to this campus and treated them well. Again, it is not in the place where I think we would like it, and that is going to be up to faculty to decide how they want to move things."

Provost Cooper stated, "I view this differentiation as a positive step and it goes with the strength of North Carolina State as a research intensive university and we can craft our Honors Program around it. The Scholars Program has more of a leadership experience. They have a lot of co-curricula activities that they sponsor. The fact that they have also made an academic requirement, you might say that is problematic but I think it is depending on how much they impose on the faculty. I think it just goes with the flow of the ordinary teaching experiences or course offerings that occur in the colleges. The thing that I find as being a little confusing is the Shelton initiative coming on. I do not think it is well integrated with the Scholars Program. It is like a new thing. Shelton has his own ideas about it. It depends a lot on high school preparation and junior ROTC, where they call it raising the sights of young people. I support the focus on research. I think it is appropriate."

Senator Honeycutt stated that the College of Engineering exit interviews from seniors who graduated this past year rated the College of Engineering lowest in access to research faculty. The dean does not know if that means in terms of wanting to do research or the inability to find it. "My four years as an undergraduate student in Engineering in the 1960s here I saw research faculty. I could not think of a better person to look at this issue of research at the undergraduate level and ask the obvious question. What has happened in twenty or thirty years in displaying the research idea in Engineering courses, and Agriculture and Life Sciences courses as a normal entity? Is it still there?"

Barthalmus responded that it is there. It is probably better now than ever. "I see far more faculty mentoring undergraduate research now than ever before. We are bigger but I think there is more out there for our students as an opportunity. The students do not have to do the research at NC State University. They can go out to the RTP. We have students in different countries in the Honors Program doing research. We have some in Brazil right now. We have one in Spain. We have students in places I cannot even tell you about that are just out of the state. Here we are sitting in the Research Triangle Park area with enormous opportunities for students to do undergraduate research. Coming out of Agriculture and Life Sciences, I know that the requirement within the discipline was two semesters of research. Many of our students go into the Triangle. Engineering is doing the same. They send them out to Northern Telecom, IBM and other facilities to get these kinds of experiences. ABET is not a hindrance to undergraduate research."

Provost Cooper stated that approximately 50% of the research in Engineering is carried out on Centennial Campus. "We have a lot of faculty there who are on the main campus to teach and then they are off to Centennial Campus several days a week in their laboratories. I think that will be mediated when more of our academic programs get placed on Centennial Campus. The first building is now coming out of the ground for Chemical Engineering and Material Science. For my part, I can certainly talk to the deans and talk up this question of faculty access."

7. NC State Recycles
Keefe Harrison, Waste Reduction Coordinator stated that the intention today is to focus on waste reduction and recycling.

"Who, What, When, Where, and Why of NC State’s Waste Reduction Program"

"The three Rs of waste reduction are reduce, reuse, and recycle. Four percent of Raleigh’s waste is produced from the people. If we recycle a quarter of that, that becomes one percent.

Where do our recyclables go? All of our mixed beverages go to certain places. All of our paper products go in separate batches. Special items for collection go to very specific places. The CD’s get sent to floppies for kids where they are re manufactured and sent to non profit organizations.

One of the main questions I have been asked since I arrived here is, When is this program going to grow? The answer is now. Igloos have been placed in the brick yard. We are starting to put them in outdoor walkway sites. Next semester we are hiring two extra students. We will then have a student staff of seven. Right now there are four men who empty all the recycling bins on campus. That is why we are limited. By the beginning of next fall we hope to increase our student staff by ten and set up a real recycling program that goes into each building to collect recyclables.

Where do all our food scraps from the Dining Hall go? A lot of them go to the landfill. The other parts of it go down the disposal. That goes to the water treatment plant. Neither of those are good options for our food waste. We are working on a food waste composting permit. We have the site and the equipment. We almost have the permission from the state. Now we are waiting for a few technical things from the university and we will be ready to go. That should handle many things.

We are starting to reroute our construction waste from building and contracts on campus to go to recycling facilities instead of the landfill, where they currently go.

We want to improve our efficiency. The dumpsters that we have on campus are bottom drop dumpsters. We are working on improving our efficiency which will help the overall program save money for the university.

One of the primary goals of my position here is to focus on education. We need a new web page. I am working on setting up a presentation with every office on campus. We have also worked on broader scale projects. Students in the Multidisciplinary Studies have worked with us on semester long projects.

Waste reduction and recycling saves money simply. How many years are left in the landfill that we take our trash to? Approximately eight years are left.

What do we do when our landfill is full? It will be in your backyard. Our other option is incineration and transfer station.

During the holiday season between Thanksgiving and New Years, Americans produce five million extra tons of trash. The EPA reports that recycling one aluminum can saves enough energy to run a computer for three hours.

I just wanted to give you a view of what is going on now, that we are changing, that we are growing and that we are very excited and we are raring to go."

8. Remarks from the Chancellor
"Provost Cooper mentioned the tuition task force and I hope that not only can we extend these thanks to Phil Carter and Harriette Griffin but I hope that we can get any insight from the rest of you about principles that would be involved, to help guide future discussions about campus initiated tuition increases. This last year those campus initiated tuition increases constituted the only pool that we had for raises. Had we not been able to have had those in the past we would not have been able to stay with our plan for promotion increases, for retention, and in some cases to address market forces that affect salaries. It is a very important part of the overall way in which the university will go forward and how our faculty will be treated. We recognize that what we are doing is talking about income for the university balanced against access and affordability for our students. Keeping that balance is a difficult one and I applaud those of you who can help us think more deeply about those ideas.

I want to thank you for your participation in the review of me as your Chancellor. As you know the Board of Governors and the President of the UNC systems are the ones responsible for that review. The Chancellor is reviewed every other year, the second year by the Board of Trustees and at the end of the forth year by the President, at the sixth year again by the Board of Trustees and the eighth year by the President, etc. We have worked very closely with the Office of the President to put together the structure that would allow her to implement the procedures that were adopted by the Board of Governors. Every time we had any input on these procedures I asked that we expand the group that was going to be surveyed so that we had more than 350 of our campus constituents who provided survey information. It was handled by RTI so that there would be purely objective handling of that information. We cannot control the accuracy which RTI provided information. We hope that you had a chance to respond. I am going to assure you that we take these comments very seriously and I take them as both a compliment as well as a challenge for improvement in the future. The Board of Trustees gave what I would say is a strong vote of confidence to my administration last Friday, and they also provided some means by which we could strengthen particularly communication on such a large campus. We will be working on that. My sincere thanks to you and your participation.

I also want to thank the President of an Research I institution who served as a consultant to President Broad in interpreting the survey results as well as providing additional phone calls which were conducted after the survey in order to be sure that we were able to interpret it effectively. This is an ongoing process and I will keep you apprised of that as I am permitted to do by the President. I wanted to let you know because I know a number of you were concerned about our interactions with the Legislature.

The Board of Governors has given us permission to bring on board, as part of our Administrative Team, someone who would act part time as a Legislative Liaison and three quarters of his time would be used for other campus constituencies and for education of our outside related clientele. He is not a lobbyist, despite what you might read in the News & Observer. We do not have lobbyists. His time is restricted by the Board of Governors to a maximum of 25% spent downtown. He will not undertake federal liaison responsibilities, but we will be hiring someone who will be specifically assigned to that responsibility who will report to the Vice Chancellor for Research but will coordinate with the person in this position. We are very fortunate that we have been able to attract Andy Willis who was a fiscal analyst for the North Carolina Senate for many years. He understands the implications of budget. He understands politics. He understands how the university has interfaced with the fiscal decisions of the State of North Carolina. I think he will be a wonderful addition to our team.

The Board of Governors reviewed our plans for a Conference Center, Hotel, and Golf Course on the Centennial Campus. I remind you that our Board of Trustees last summer looked very careful, at a consultant’s report about the financial feasibility of this project which had been strongly endorsed by each one of the deans of our academic units as necessary for their programmatic expansion. Again, I want to assure you that that approval was premised on the fact that no state appropriated funds would be used for these projects. No tuition money would be used, and we fully expect this project, based on this expert opinion, to be completely funded as a self liquidating project. The Board of Governors as well asked us to seek gifts and grants and project savings of approximately $12.0M so that we could reduce the indebtedness and pay off that initial investment faster. We anticipate, for example, that on the golf course there will be holes that will be named for corporate entities and anticipate that as the Conference Center proceeds that we will get in kind contributions from computer manufacturers and internet connectors. We anticipate that the furniture industry in North Carolina will help us with those activities, that the carpeting from the hotel and conference center may be donated. We are going to be working on all these things now. We have taken a very conservative financial approach because we do not want this to ever be a drain on any of the operations of the university. I think we are at a stage where we can go forward.

Finally let me tell you that we had an announcement at two o’clock today that the football team is going to be invited to the Gator Bowl which is in Jacksonville, Florida on January 1 and we have been able to negotiate discounts for faculty, staff, and students for that game."

Chair Carter thanked Chancellor Fox and applauded her for four years of tenure here at NC State.

9. Recognition of Professor Talbert Shaw, President of Shaw University
Chair Carter recognized Professor Shaw’s contributions to this area.

"Shaw University was founded in 1865 and is the oldest historically black institution in the South. In the 1800s we had a medical school here in Raleigh and it was located at Shaw University. It was founded to produce men and women of the cloth. It is one of the few nationally accredited Divinity Schools in the country. We are particularly happy to acknowledge President Shaw’s contributions to Raleigh as a member of what some of you may be familiar with as the cosortium of Raleigh Colleges–Shaw, NC State, Meredith, Peace, and St Mary’s. We share courses and we share library facilities and the access. It is certainly great for us to recognize President Shaw’s contributions to that as well as to his own university as he approaches retirement.

Shaw University is a founding member of the United Negro College Fund. Some of its extraordinary alumni include a world champion heavy weight boxer. Former Chancellor Monteith serves on their Board of Trustees.

In November 1987, Shaw University, by their own admission, was in a period of declining enrollment and certainly fiscal uncertainty. That is when they turned to Dr. Shaw. A sentiment that I have, and I know it is shared by many others, is that he saved Shaw University. Prior to coming to Shaw University, Dr. Shaw was associated with a number of universities in his academic career".

Chair Carter presented President Shaw with a book published by the University of North Carolina Press titled "North Carolina Century: Tarheels Who Made A Difference 1900-2000" signed by members of the Faculty Senate, the Chancellor, and the Provost.

10. Remarks from Professor Talbert Shaw, President of Shaw University
"Thank you very much Chancellor Fox, ladies and gentlemen, and my friends in academia. I am profoundly greatful for your giving me this moment in the sun. If someone should ask me about the association between me and NC State, I would tell them in one brief half an hour. I am glad to be here.

We have been around here for a while. Shaw is one hundred thirty -seven years old now. Many people have been asking me, "Talbert, you look so young, why are you leaving now?" I keep saying to them that I am not as young as I look. I am really responding to the command given me by Yogi Berra, the American baseball philosopher. He says when you come to a fork in the road, take it. After having served for fifteen years, I think the time has come for me to step aside and give a younger person the chance to lead. It has been creating a great deal of concern for the Board of Trustees. I think they have taken note of the fact that some wonderful things have occurred at Shaw during my tenure there. There is a little word "we" that has etched itself into my mind. It simply means that we together have done it. The Board of Trustees has stuck with me. The faculty is wonderful. I have put together one of the finest cabinet, constituted of deans, Vice Presidents, and fine students. Things have grown. When I came to Shaw I had to fight on five fronts simultaneously. We had falling enrollment. We had a debt of five million dollars with the Federal Government. The administration of the university was in shambles. We needed to raise funds, and we needed to retrieve or revive the reputation of the school because the News and Observer had been writing all kinds of articles indicating that Shaw should be closing. In spite of the fact that over the centuries we evolved from a little institute that was teaching men and women to teach and to preach in the basement of the church, the institution evolved into a comprehensive university with Schools of Law, Pharmacy, Medicine, Divinity School and of course a Liberal Arts College. To see that distinguished history being tarnished was quite a concern to us. I was invited to come with some trepidation from Morgan State University because it is a state supported school and I was not much involved in raising money. I took it because I think the institution has a great tradition. On those five fronts we have done very well. The enrollment has moved from 1400 to approximately 2700. We have paid off the debt to the Federal Government. I put together a top notch academic team. We raised twenty five million dollars in three years, and the reputation of the school.

The Chronicle of Higher Education had my picture on the front page about eight years ago saying that Shaw University has developed its focus. On those five fronts I think we have made good progress.

The time has come for me to move on. There is a search in progress, and I believe that the right person will come along. I have enjoyed the association with Chancellor Fox. She does not say much but when she does, there is substance to it with a sense of authority. I just want to say that I have enjoyed working with you across the years. We are delighted to be recognized by you.

My wife and I have purchased a home in Boca Raton, Florida. I am looking forward to retirement. The years have been good. I have no regrets because we have seen the institution move from the brink of bankruptcy to what I would call a stable position.

People give money to people. You have to have something to sell, but in the final analysis people have to believe in you before they give you a contribution. Again, thank you for inviting me. I shall always remember this moment in the sun at this great academic institution when you called to recognize the leadership that I provided at Shaw. Again, thank you very much."

11. Adjournment
Chair Carter adjourned the meeting to a reception in honor of Dr. Shaw.

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